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jmac

This is a beautiful post on Maya Deren! She definitely is an inspiration to me, and I am inspired by your writing!

I am very interested in the subtle shifts in consciousness and how these changes affect our ability to understand experimental cinema. I think that the process is different for everyone. Maybe you have made a shift in consciousness or maybe you've just always kind of understood?

By the way, Maya looks like she is dancing at the editing table! When I write at my computer, I feel like this image! :)

Thom

Thanks for the thoughtful comments, J. "Dancing at the editing table" would be an ideal title for that image. I feel that the photo suits the text here because Deren's editing style, along with Rees' comments and reading your blog, opened up cinema for me in a way I kind of forgot about since watching Méliès, Porter, Un chien andalou (1929), and L'Age D'Or (1930). I like your idea that the process is different for everyone. We may not always write about cinema, or think about it, this way, but it's reassuring to remember that we can if we allow ourselves to...

shahn

A lovely post!
My first experience viewing Maya Deren was at a local all-women film festival. Sitting outdoors on an uncharacteristically warm evening watching the film in a crowd formed predominantly of women was a unique experience similar to the actual film.
With her films, and other avant-garde films, I feel I can enjoy the experience she is sharing with me, I feel more enveloped in the film makers vision. I much prefer that type of film experience than recognizing and appreciating a director's command of classical film elements.
Thanks for posting this.

AR

I didn't even think to mention "time" in my response to that question, I suppose because I take that aspect as assumed. When I was in school, I recall film and video and some multimedia were called time-based, but it's still a notion I think about after the sound and vision.

Anyway, I finally saw some Deren on YouTube several months ago. I really love her work, though the lack of sound does frustrate me somewhat.
What was nice though was finally understanding why a professor recommended I see her work many years ago in a critique. I've never done film (wanted to, never had the equipment), but w/my photography I can see the relation.

Joe Thompson

Thom: It's good to have you back on your journey through the years. Thanks for the comments on this film and on Maya Deren in general. The only film of hers that I have seen is "Meshes of the Afternoon". You've inspired me to look for more.

Regards,
Joe Thompson ;0)

Thom

Shahn, AR, Joe, thank you.

Shahn - Thanks for sharing your memory of the festival here. It reflects the personal connection many seem to make with Deren's films and those of other avant-garde filmmakers.

AR - Anything added to that discussion meant more than anything left out as far as I'm concerned, AR. Btw, the recent book meme has me wondering what is on page 123 of Hans Henry Jahnn's The Night of Lead, featured over at your blog. Oh, and I'm lending my support to your stated desire to make a film. I'd love to see what you'd create with a rented 16mm Bolex.

Joe - And it's good to see you back 'round here too, sir. If/when you see more of Deren's films I hope we'll get to see a post about them at The Pneumatic Rolling-Sphere Carrier Delusion.

AR

There are only 71 pages, actually.

As far as making a film...I do have a Super 8 camera and a projector. It would just be a matter of purchasing the film, etc.

Thom

AR, I thought the book meme should've picked a lesser figure than 123 :)

Super 8 stock has a feel all its own. Even if it's film shot yesterday it still has a nostalgic feel to it, you know?

Sir Newt

Glad to see the posts rolling again. A very interesting post on a corner of film I wasn't yet familiar with. Film's ability to suspend space and time is probably the quality that makes it so suited for dreams and magic. Seeing all the newfangled CGI particle effects and such in films is depressing when you realize that so much mystery is already an integral part of the cinematic lexicon, nothing invented after 1950 required.

Thom

Beautifully put, Sir Newt. Thank you.

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